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	<link>http://superfineshag.org</link>
	<description>all things super fine</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Debugging your CSS by superfineshag</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2008/03/20/debugging-your-css/#comment-7890</link>
		<author>superfineshag</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2008/03/20/debugging-your-css/#comment-7890</guid>
		<description>good point iesu - that certainly helps the padding problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point iesu - that certainly helps the padding problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Debugging your CSS by iesu</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2008/03/20/debugging-your-css/#comment-7878</link>
		<author>iesu</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2008/03/20/debugging-your-css/#comment-7878</guid>
		<description>thats why you use two divs to produce for example a header area. the first one contains a width and height, then another div inside that houses the margins or padding. you should never have a div with a width AND padding\margin property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats why you use two divs to produce for example a header area. the first one contains a width and height, then another div inside that houses the margins or padding. you should never have a div with a width AND padding\margin property.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Debugging your CSS by superfineshag</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2008/03/20/debugging-your-css/#comment-7841</link>
		<author>superfineshag</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2008/03/20/debugging-your-css/#comment-7841</guid>
		<description>Not at all true, the Box Model is a massive problem if you're creating pixel perfect layouts, look at this quote from here http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BoxModelHack:
"According to the W3C, an assigned 'width' (and 'height') of a box refers to the 'content area' of a box only. The padding, borders, and margins are then added to this value to arrive at the total box width. If the 'width' property is omitted, the total box width is the same as the 'content area' of the surrounding container element.

All well and good. Unfortunately, all CSS enabled versions of IE before IE6/strict use a different box model. In that model, the padding and borders are counted as part of any assigned 'width' or 'height'. In the absence of borders and padding, the two models agree. However, if a box has an assigned "width', and if borders and/or padding are added, the standard box model causes the overall box width (between the outer border edges) to increase, while in IE's model the 'content area' gets squeezed by the same amount. This is a major problem for proper page layout."

Thats only part of it, once you start to do slightly more exciting things you sometimes have to get quite creating. Have a look into transparencies in gifs in IE, that's quite a chunky hack to get working, but it can be done.

Another massive difference between all browsers is the way in which forms get rendered, that can involve all sorts of hacks if you really want to get everything the same</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all true, the Box Model is a massive problem if you&#8217;re creating pixel perfect layouts, look at this quote from here <a href="http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BoxModelHack:" rel="nofollow">http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BoxModelHack:</a><br />
&#8220;According to the W3C, an assigned &#8216;width&#8217; (and &#8216;height&#8217;) of a box refers to the &#8216;content area&#8217; of a box only. The padding, borders, and margins are then added to this value to arrive at the total box width. If the &#8216;width&#8217; property is omitted, the total box width is the same as the &#8216;content area&#8217; of the surrounding container element.</p>
<p>All well and good. Unfortunately, all CSS enabled versions of IE before IE6/strict use a different box model. In that model, the padding and borders are counted as part of any assigned &#8216;width&#8217; or &#8216;height&#8217;. In the absence of borders and padding, the two models agree. However, if a box has an assigned &#8220;width&#8217;, and if borders and/or padding are added, the standard box model causes the overall box width (between the outer border edges) to increase, while in IE&#8217;s model the &#8216;content area&#8217; gets squeezed by the same amount. This is a major problem for proper page layout.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thats only part of it, once you start to do slightly more exciting things you sometimes have to get quite creating. Have a look into transparencies in gifs in IE, that&#8217;s quite a chunky hack to get working, but it can be done.</p>
<p>Another massive difference between all browsers is the way in which forms get rendered, that can involve all sorts of hacks if you really want to get everything the same</p>
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		<title>Comment on Debugging your CSS by Iesu</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2008/03/20/debugging-your-css/#comment-7815</link>
		<author>Iesu</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2008/03/20/debugging-your-css/#comment-7815</guid>
		<description>Only bad CSS developers use hacks. It is possible to cater for all browsers without.

G Unit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only bad CSS developers use hacks. It is possible to cater for all browsers without.</p>
<p>G Unit!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tevor Jackson and Lemonjelly at the IMAX by Retro Sneakers</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2007/03/16/tevor-jackson-and-lemonjelly-at-the-imax/#comment-7533</link>
		<author>Retro Sneakers</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2007/03/16/tevor-jackson-and-lemonjelly-at-the-imax/#comment-7533</guid>
		<description>I think Nike's are going to the retro look now for the more casual crowd. Their athletic line is ugly, but I like the retro looking ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Nike&#8217;s are going to the retro look now for the more casual crowd. Their athletic line is ugly, but I like the retro looking ones.</p>
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		<title>Comment on running to avoid the tube in london by Jesus</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2007/08/08/running-to-avoid-the-tube-in-london/#comment-7458</link>
		<author>Jesus</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2007/08/08/running-to-avoid-the-tube-in-london/#comment-7458</guid>
		<description>http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A634664 - get into this gingery beery action. for men only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A634664" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A634664</a> - get into this gingery beery action. for men only.</p>
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		<title>Comment on running to avoid the tube in london by Jesus</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2007/08/08/running-to-avoid-the-tube-in-london/#comment-7190</link>
		<author>Jesus</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2007/08/08/running-to-avoid-the-tube-in-london/#comment-7190</guid>
		<description>all this running jizzatron is all well and good, but what about the pea and mint puree? well let me tell you what...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/warmsaladofscallopsb_79287.shtml

Bang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all this running jizzatron is all well and good, but what about the pea and mint puree? well let me tell you what&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/warmsaladofscallopsb_79287.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/warmsaladofscallopsb_79287.shtml</a></p>
<p>Bang.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadu by hoodia gordonii</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2007/02/23/joey-jo-jo-junior-shabadu/#comment-7090</link>
		<author>hoodia gordonii</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2007/02/23/joey-jo-jo-junior-shabadu/#comment-7090</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;hoodia gordonii...&lt;/strong&gt;

news...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>hoodia gordonii&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>news&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using the referrer URL with a session by Jesus</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2007/04/16/using-the-referrer-url-with-a-session/#comment-3183</link>
		<author>Jesus</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2007/04/16/using-the-referrer-url-with-a-session/#comment-3183</guid>
		<description>mmmm ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmm ya.</p>
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		<title>Comment on random word confirmation by Barbara</title>
		<link>http://superfineshag.org/2006/12/13/random-word-confirmation/#comment-1546</link>
		<author>Barbara</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://superfineshag.org/2006/12/13/random-word-confirmation/#comment-1546</guid>
		<description>Interesting theme have mentioned. With pleasure I shall support.
And in general, good blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting theme have mentioned. With pleasure I shall support.<br />
And in general, good blog</p>
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